More Excerpts from Ryuho Okawa's Spiritual Interviews

(Including 'The Flip-Side Universe')

 

 

This article features some example excerpts from six books presenting transcripts of channeling sessions of Ryuho Okawa in Japan.  The name of each 'channeled entity' is individually identified in section headings followed by date of the channeling session and then some selected excerpts from each individual spiritual interview transcript as published in English.  The transcripts are presented in chronological order.  A previous blog article presenting excerpts from other Ryuho Okawa spiritual interview sessions was presented in 2019.  Ryuho Okawa commented in The Next Great Awakening (2011): "While a spirit is speaking through me, my own consciousness remains separate — both awake and aware.  The spiritual entity who wishes to be heard uses the speech center of my brain to choose the proper words."  The Ryuho Okawa channeling case chronology has been a subject of eight previous blog articles. (channeling cases index)  Other channelers known to remain conscious while channeling that have been the subject of blog articles include Mary-Margaret Moore, Paulina Peavy and Paul Selig.

In the Happy Science organization Spiritual Interview Series books published during the last ten years, the session interviewers have in most cases been identified.  For this article interviewer identifications are indicated with 'Q.'  The following passages of spiritual interview transcripts are from the Ryuho Okawa books On Happiness Revolution:  A Spiritual Interview with Hannah Arendt (2014), Spiritual Messages from James Allen (2017), Spiritual Messages from Samuel Smiles (2020), Jesus Christ's Answers to the Coronavirus Pandemic (2020), Shakyamuni Buddha's Future Prediction (2020) and With Savior: Messages from Space Being Yaidron (2020).  Other comments of 'James Allen' are presented in the preceding article along with some introductory statements for readers unfamiliar with Ryuho's channeling.  Newcomer blog readers are advised that some terms used to express conditions of human existence as found in Ryuho's books are expressed in alternative ways among other individual channeling case chronologies; in comparison, some pronouncements about 'Hell' and someone being 'possessed by devils' can be construed metaphorically.

 

Shakyamuni Buddha's Future Prediction includes transcripts of sessions not only of the "World-Honored One of the Shakya clan"; there is also commentary of channeled entities 'John Lennon,' 'Metatron' and 'Yaidron.'  As links between various paranormal case chronologies are mentioned in many articles of this blog, it can be noted that during a session with a succession of remarks offering travesties, 'John Lennon' mentions the phrases "Que Sera Kera" and "Que Sera Sera."  The latter phrase has been mentioned in two blog articles.  (1, 2)  Ryuho Okawa commented in the Afterword for the book that beyond any likely literal interpretation of the declarations in the 'John Lennon' spiritual message "you will see an aspect of God's true intentions."  

 

After having read two dozen of Ryuho's spiritual interview transcript books, this blogger is able to observe that it's evident in publishing these transcripts Ryuho Okawa isn't redacting channeled commentary that may be found startling or disagreeable in some way across the broad spectrum of readers and their individual orientations, backgrounds, philosophies and knowledge.  There is mentioned 'The Flip-Side Universe' in With Savior: Message from Space Being Yaidron with the relevant passage included in this article.

 

 

Hannah Arendt (1906-1975)
Book: On Happiness Revolution: A Spiritual Interview with Hannah Arendt
Date of Spiritual Interview: March 13, 2014
Biographical commentary in the book includes: "After the Nazi assumption of power in 1933, she fled to Paris and engaged in supporting Jewish refugees there.  In 1951, she became a naturalized citizen of the United States and released one of her main works, The Origins of Totalitarianism . . ."

 

The ideal of democracy just means "a meeting" or "the effectiveness of direct meeting."

 

However, this is very difficult.  Now, this is replaced by newspapers, TV shows, radio talk and other Internet tools, so the situations are very different.  Therefore, if you seek the ideal of ancient Greek democracy, you will fall in a deep hole of Hell or some kind of deep pond of politics.  So, this is one idea, but don't misunderstand that the ancient Greek democracy can reappear in this world again.

 

 

Greed is the main concept of freedom.

 

Q: That's very contradictory to your various works.

 

ARENDT: I know, I know, I know.

 

Q: Oh, you know?

 

ARENDT: I am just testing you.  So, don't mind me.

 

Q: Right now, you gave us a good esteem to our movement, the Happy Science movement.

 

ARENDT: I know, because I influenced you a lot.

 

Q: Yes, thank you very much.  And in Japan, we are often criticized as a group, planning to get power to establish a kind of totalitarianism or despotism.  How do you see this problem?

 

ARENDT: The problem is, "Is there love?"  I mean, the Love from God or not.  Or, whether this kind of love is akin to the Justice of God.  If you have this kind of love and justice in your regime or movement, then that's not intrusion on another country or imperialism.  So, you must ask China and North Korea that, "Is there any Love from God?  From Buddha?  Or mercy from Buddha?  Or Justice from God?"  You can ask them about that.

 

 

In material life, whether the rich people have the tendency to save the poor and miserable people or not is very important.

 

 

Philosophy is the problem itself, so you must think about things from a lot of angles and about how you see or think these things.

 

 

I was born in Germany as a Jewish and I was very frightened by Nazism, so I hate that kind of totalitarianism, imperialism, intrusion-ism and periods, which were governed by fear.  In the near future, there will occur some kind of war in this area.  But be careful not to make dark times in the near future.  Please keep hope in the future of this world.  Please seek, seek and seek the hope of the world.

 

 

Q: By the way, when you were alive on earth, you had the experience of working for Zionist movement, and also, you insisted that the federation of Jewish people and Palestine people should be established.  What do you think about the Israel and Palestine problem going on right now?

 

ARENDT: It's a difficult question, but a radical resolution for the problem is to become friends with each other.  They need a new religion or a new thought  to become friends with each other.  Their traditional religions are a little different and have contradictions in them.

 

"One God" doesn't mean, "to exclude other nations."  That is the main point of Happy Science, I guess.


James Allen (1864-1912)
Book: Spiritual Messages from James Allen
Date of Spiritual Interview: March 25, 2014
Biographical commentary in the book includes: "A British writer . . . He published As a Man Thinketh in 1903 . . . As a bible of self-help, it is still being read by people around the world."

 

Karl Marx . . . just lived as a prophet of materialistic people.

 

People seek bread but don't seek the Truth of God these days.  That's why he was greatly successful in this world.  But now he is deprived of almost everything in another world.

 

 

The Christianity of England is a little different from the real Christianity.  The origin of the Church of England is not so good, I think.  Henry VIII, the founder of the British church, was a bad man.  Not "batman," but "bad man."

His influence contaminated the Christianity of England and England's colonialism all over the world was contaminated by his evil thoughts.  So, I must purify English Christianity.  This was one of my missions.

 

A man who thinks he is not great and makes an effort, day by day, small efforts, day by day like an ant, becomes great in another world when he passes away. 

So, please teach your students or followers to not think of themselves as great or big.  Your starting point is very small and your work and efforts are very small.  But you can accumulate these deeds, day by day.  In the end, a tree will bear a lot of fruits in this world or in the other world.  Only God knows the result.

 

But this is belief.  This is faith.  Don't examine your success or happiness through the result of this world only.  OK?


'Samuel Smiles' (1812-1904)
Book: Spiritual Messages from Samuel Smiles
Date of Spiritual Interview: (January 23, 2020)
Biographical commentary in the book includes: "A Scottish writer and doctor . . . Self-Help was published in 1859 and translated into Japanese . . . selling over a million copies and making a great impact on Japan."

 

I think Shakespeare tried to educate kings by illustrating various fates of kings and proper kingcraft in the plays.

 

Well, I daresay I am like the intersection between Buddhism and Christianity.

 

So, if Thomas More (is reborn into this world as) . . .

 

Q: Bill Gates.

 

SAMUEL SMILES: Bill Gates.  There would be someone like him aiming to create utopia with the help of computers.  But on the other hand, there will be others who use computers as tools to create hell on Earth.  Such a battle is happening in different times.  In the past, it was a battle between royal authority and papacy . . . or papal authority, but now the battle involves computers.

 

. . . fundamentally, you must remember that even the things that seem popular now may fade away in 20 years' time.  Many of the computer-related companies that are accomplishing much success now could be gone by then.  So, I think the only things that will remain are the things that fulfill the needs of the future.

Samuel Smiles
Date of Spiritual Interview: January 29, 2020
  

Many modern people are seeing and hearing the same news over and over again through TV, newspaper, and other media, but some are actually just wasting your time.

So I hope you will remember that it is important to eliminate things that waste your time, and instead, use that time to concentrate on important matters.

Many modern people tend to have certain ideas imprinted in them, such that their family upbringing and natural talent, or their education leading up to 20 years of age determine everything in their life.  But as long as you think that "Life is a period of 100 years" as Master Okawa teaches, I think you can restart again at any point in your life.  You can set of into a new field by acquiring a new ability, knowledge, and experience.

Self-Help might sound challenging when you think of it like intensive military training where you are required to, for example, carry 40-kg weights over a mountain.  But what the book is trying to say is, "Why don't you try and test out your many possibilities that you already have . . ."

What we are trying to do is to nurture more people who can save others rather than those who need saving, and this is through demonstrating that people can succeed by being inspired, making continued efforts through the use of small chunks of their time and putting in every spare moment that they have. 

There is no question that self-help follows the lifestyle of the ant.  You may not understand it unless you practice it, but people can improve their abilities and the fruits of their efforts will accumulate.  Even when helping people, if you can help one person, you have the potential to help three, five, or even 10 people.  If someone studies very hard and succeeds in building a bridge over a river, that bridge will be useful to many, many people later on.

It seems like a lot of effort is being made to maintaining the current conditions, but perhaps this is because people have not experienced progress through self-help.

Shakyamuni Buddha
Book: Shakyamuni Buddha's Future Prediction
Date of Spiritual Interview: April 14, 2020
Biographical commentary in the book includes: "The founder of Buddhism, who was born about 2,500 or 2,600 years ago in the area now known as Nepal . . . he renounced the world at age 29 to seek after the truth and attained Great Enlightenment at the age of 35 . . . he died at the age of 80."

 
I think the current pandemic is revealing that popular and mainstream things will come to a dead end.


I get the feeling that the time has come for them [people] to stop and think.


One significant thing about this current disaster is the power to stop the values and public opinions that are rampantly spreading in the world like a virus.


Some people might even go crazy and shoot a bunch of people with a machine gun. There may be some people who take it out on others like that.  But people might think about their eternal life . . .


Humans may feel alive and healthy, but if infected by a virus, they will get sick and feel unwell.  People can understand this.  However, they completely fail to understand the idea of not being able to return to the Real World as a result of their heart or soul becoming tainted and corrupt.  It's because they live in rejection of this understanding.  Therein lies a mistake, and we want to change this.


There are many different levels of unhappiness, but the kind of unhappiness that stops people in their tracks, makes them turn around and rethink things is the kind of unhappiness that leads people onto the right path.


Whether this becomes a true Golden Age or not depends on how you practice the law of cause and effect.  It depends on what sorts of causal acts you perform and on what effects those have.


Please think deeply about what is required of you now, from the perspective of future generations.  Because that is very important.


It looks like they are about to get to the truth [about the origin of the novel coronavirus infection], and we are waiting on verification and evidence.


People must realize the mistake in modern Christianity.  Christianity is the religion of people who didn't believe in Jesus.


There is no fundamental solution because this world is not eternal.  It is nothing more than a place for soul training.


Death is unavoidable.  And people don't really get to choose how they die.  So, ultimately, there is nothing you can do about it.  It's just a matter of how meaningfully you use the time given to you and how well you use it to improve your soul.


When miracles happen, I want you to realize that you are witnessing the glory of God, and that the recipients of such miracles are expected to achieve things worth those miracles.

 

 

Metatron
Book: Shakyamuni Buddha's Future Prediction
Date of Spiritual Interview: April 14, 2020
Biographical commentary in the book includes: "A space being . . . A part of Jesus Christ's space soul (Amor).  Born in Mesopotamia about 6,500 years ago."

 

People on Earth have not yet realized that the variables Shakyamuni Buddha mentioned today include us.  We are one of the variables.  We are also considering where to stop the damage.  As I said earlier this year, eventually, I am going to put an artistic end to this.  So, regarding that matter, please trust me.

 

This year, everything will be rather slow and inactive, but we will make efforts to strengthen people's faith in God and start the age of new construction, new management, and new politics.


Jesus Christ
Book: Jesus Christ's Answers to the Coronavirus Pandemic
Date of Spiritual Interview: April 18, 2020
Biographical commentary in the book includes: "The founder of Christianity.  Born as the son of a carpenter, Joseph of Nazareth in Palestine, and his wife Mary.  Jesus was baptized at around 30, by John the Baptist."

 
Well, you might not want to hear this, but it was predicted that a type of end-of-the-century phenomenon or a doomsday phenomenon would occur.  How it would play out was left for humanity to decide.

 

 

Back when I, Jesus was preaching, there were no "mass media" like the ones you see now.  There were, however, traditional powers that wanted to maintain the status quo.   

I enabled the blind to see and the crippled to walk.  I healed the bleeding.  I don't know if people were aware of cancer at that time, but I healed skin cancer-like ailments and leprosy, also known as Hansen's disease, which  produces pus and sores.  Such miracles occurred a lot.

This made the existing groups  like the Pharisees and the Sadducees jealous.  They oppressed me, thinking, "Jealousy of many makes justice."

Right now, you are depending far too much on the power of Ryuho Okawa alone.  This enables people to single him out for personal attacks.  For example, the mass media have attacked him about his ex-wife and eldest son, but they never report on what those two did wrong.  They only talk about the criticisms expressed by the two.

As you live to help other people, your life might not go as planned along the way.  Even so, you should accept that willingly . . . If you have engaged in activities that are in alignment with the will of God, then you will be saved in the truest sense in your life in the next world.

In the end, our hope is for people to transition into the Spirit World as a sound soul and to have them live happily in the Real World.  As you can see right now, I am talking to you.  Happy Science teaches that becoming a spirit does not mean you turn into a zombie or become like a spirit you see in horror films.  Very few others can teach this now.  Many horror films made in Christian countries depict spirits after death as terrible evil spirits who drive people insane or curse them.  These films all depict devil-like beings coming to kill people.

But when people who have the right faith and spiritual knowledge return to the other world, they are sound there just as the sound people in the world are.  On top of that, they have a greater understanding of mystical matters, and therefore, have greater power.  There is such a world.  Please know that.

Now the time is coming when many people in this world will fall ill and die.  The numbers could grow quite large.  I am not saying to take advantage of this situation, but especially in a time like now, you should teach the importance of faith, the truth that the soul is eternal, that it was made by God, and teach that we must try our best in this world to realize God's glory.


Yaidron

Book: With Savior: Message from Space Being Yaidron
Date of Spiritual Interview: August 23, 2020
Biographical commentary in the book includes: "He has been involved with the rise and fall of civilizations, wars, and major disasters on Earth."

There is a tendency that, although faith spreads in poor nations, wealthier ones forget God and Buddha and see themselves as gods.  The exception is the United States in which the people's level of faith is high despite how the economic level rose.

We have the mission of giving people an opportunity to awaken by sending out some kind of opinion or phenomenon if necessary.

 

So, there are many types of beings coming to Earth now from the universe.  Currently, Earth's civilization is at a turning point and there are many beings coming to observe it. 

The soul can travel through the Spirit World by itself.  It can make itself appear in this world.  It can travel in an instant through the multidimensional space of this universe.  Such is the soul.

. . . there is another world aside from the world you are living in, called the flip-side universe.  I believe you are not aware enough about this yet, but there are those who are adding to and taking advantage of the chaos here on Earth from the flip-side universe.  We are fighting against them too.

 

 

It may feel sad to see what is thriving now and the things everyone believes are certain and true crumble away.  But at the same time, it will signify the birth, creation, and formation of something new.  A new genesis will begin. 

 

 

So, know that the Messiah of the Earth is actually someone who also guides on other planets and in other galaxies as well.

Yaidron
Date of Spiritual Interview: August 24, 2020

Q: Metatron said that, on his planet, people do not lose their memories of the time before they were born.   He said that people are born with a certain amount of awareness of the kind of soul they are and whether or not they are an angel.  Is Planet Elder similar to that?

YAIDRON: On Earth, even people possessed by devils can become top politicians, bureaucrats, military officers, police officers, university professors, television presenters, and business executives.  But on our planet, people are aware of each other's spiritual level, so they are selected for jobs based on it.

 

Q: Then, does everyone know the states of others' minds to some extent?

YAIDRON: Yes, we do.

 

We have spiritual bodies that can change into physical form.  That's also why we are able to give spiritual messages . . .

 

. . . We take the form that we think you will prefer to see or the form that you feel is necessary.

 

 

Well, as long as you think that going into space means boarding a rocket with your physical body, then you are not in the same world that we are in.

 

 

Enlightenment includes science.  Because it's about learning the Truth.  It's also about learning what Truth is.

 

 

I have no set lifespan.  It's infinite.  I have more memory than you can trace.  We live forever.

 

 

We are the beginning of life.

 

 

Q: The beginning of life?

 

YAIDRON: Yes.  We have never died.  Although we have taken different forms, we have never died.  We live forever.

 

 

 Q: There is also the dark-side universe, right?

YAIDRON: Yes.

These universe cells are bound together by the power of love, and there is an entity trying to destroy this bond.

Q: I have spoken with you during spiritual message recordings that haven't been released to the public as well, and my conclusion is that you are truly a loving person.  Right now, people see you expressing yourself through only a portion of your forms, so you're probably just wrapped in too much mystery.  Also, the word "reptilian" alone . . . I'm sure that doesn't cover everything about you, though.

YAIDRON: No.  It's because it's impossible for you to understand unless I say that I am a space person from somewhere in the universe.

Q: Do you have any messages for us here at the end as a summary?

YAIDRON: Hmm . . . El Cantare has descended.  I think this means that Earthlings need to attract a brighter future even more.

Update: A list of articles about the Ryuho Okawa channeling case chronology is available as part of the first Index article shown below.